The Clonard pilgrims go out Sunday by Sunday to churches across the spectrum of denominations. I know that the Benedictine monks in Rostrevor pray for me regularly and not just for me, but also for leaders and members of many in traditions different to their own. So then, “that would be an ecumenical matter”, yes it does cover everything, especially in the Catholic Church, because the Catholic Church has a different meaning for the word ecumenical to everyone else. Thankfully there are many examples of that local commitment to the building of relationships and the development of understanding. Fr Robertson looks to it on the purely musical level, and music is a common heritage in his eyes, held even with Hottentots such is his largeness of spirit.Dom Gregory will have none of Fr Robertson’s ecumenical spirit. On 16 October two letters in reply were published by Say what he like about chant, Dom Gregory was not going to be allowed to define the identity of the Plainsong and Medieval Music Society. 8 thoughts on “ “That would be an ecumenical matter”—Dom Gregory Murray and Plainsong: an Exchange ” johndelradice says: Wednesday, 8 July, 2020 at 7:10 pm I used to like to hear the odd bit of Gregorian chant on Radio 3, driving in the car or whatever.
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May he rest in peace, and his antagonists too. I was once introduced at an event with the words: "If you cut her in half, like a piece of rock you would find the word Methodist running through her." While we could discuss the degree to which the conflict in Northern Ireland is a religious one, I have no doubt that a way forward towards peace demands a Christian response and more than that a response from Christians across the Churches. www.irishnews.com/.../01/23/news/that-would-be-an-ecumenical-matter-81629 In the language of this article, peace-building demands an ecumenical response. For some, "ecumenical" is an insult because for them it implies compromise or the watering down of essential truth. Instead they focus on chant as the subject of academic interest.And here Dom Gregory misses a point: anything Catholic can be the object of non-Catholic academic interest. Get the day's headlines delivered directly to your inbox That he needed to be so tart about it is questionable.
However, Catholic doctrine seen as an object of academic enquiry is not the same as situating and interpreting it within its Catholic context, which is the proper aim of theology per se. I had zero contact and little awareness of it in my Evangelical days. The Sisters of the Cross and Passion in Drumalis have blessed me with kindness, hospitality, wisdom and s p i r i t u a l direction. Chant is not a common Christian heritage for Dom Gregory, but the property of (ie, it is proper to) the Catholic Church of the Latin rite. Years ago I heard a monk describe Murray as having been the rudest man in the English congregation. Well, the wind is changing .
He, no doubt correctly, deduces that the conference in question seeks to introduce chant into Protestant worship, but the Church’s “official liturgical music” has no place in “heretical worship.” Dom Gregory has a more fundamental issue in mind: the danger of appearing to accept the minimisation of differences between Catholic and non-Catholics. The Party Line had changed and so had he.Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in: However nothing is so sacrosanct that others cannot express an interest in it, even a fascination.
While it's not impossible, I cannot imagine ever becoming a Presbyterian, a Roman Catholic or, indeed, a Moravian, but I do pray for and work towards unity that is based in a common commitment to Jesus, and seen in respect for each other, and a unity of purpose in our common mission to let the love of God be seen in the world. We need an ecumenism which is more than skin deep but in which relationships are so deep that we can say "I think you are wrong in that" and still remain friends; an ecumenism in which we can be honest about the significant differences that there are between different Christian traditions; we need relationships with each other marked by generosity and kindness.
In order to build the peaceful society, which I believe most people long for, we will need to learn to listen, to forgive, to be reconciled with one another, to work together even when we differ. I am a woman who is an ordained minister, and have friends from my own and other Christian traditions who believe that it is theologically wrong for women to be ordained.
Benedictine monk and priest of Douai Abbey, serving in St Elizabeth's, Scarisbrick (Lancashire). It really is the beating heart of sacred worship in music, and belongs nowhere else. I am also ecumenical. There will not be lasting peace while sectarianism stalks our streets.
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